MarsBaR FAQ

MarsBaR FAQ

What's with the fish?

When MarsBaR first starts, it flashes up a picture of a sardine. The sardine is a symbol of Marseille, the spiritual home of MarsBaR. To explain further, here's an excerpt from France Monthly online magazine, entitled The Sardine That Blocked the Port Entrance.

"We" say, in France (understanding that the "we" excludes the people of Marseilles), that the people of Marseilles have a tendency to exaggerate their stories. And it is stated, by these local people, that one day a sardine (the little fish!) blocked the entrance to the port. But this is not said in jest, a slight distortion maybe! In 1778, the Viscount of Barras, officer of the marine infantry regiment from Pondichery in India was captured by the British. Benefiting from special accords for prisoner of war exchanges, he embarked the following year on a boat, named the "Sartine", which was not armed. To prevent potential attacks upon it, the captain would raise certain cartel flags that the enemy would recognize. However, the rule was not respected, because on May 1st, 10 months after being at sea without incident, a British war boat attacked the "Sartine" with two fatal canon volleys. The ship finished its trip and ran aground at the entrance to the old port. It is therefore not a "sardine" that blocked the port of Marseilles but a ship named "La Sartine", on a beautiful spring day in 1780!

Why do I get an error "Cant open image file" when estimating a design?

This occurs when the filenames in your SPM or MarsBaR design no longer point to valid files. For example, when you first estimated the design, the time series images might have been in a directory called /now/dead/directory - like this:

/now/dead/directory/subject1/sess1/image_01.img
/now/dead/directory/subject1/sess1/image_02.img
...
/now/dead/directory/subject1/sess2/image_01.img
...
/now/dead/directory/subject2/sess1/image_01.img
etc.

Time passed, you reorganized your files, and these images have now moved to another directory, like this:

/currently/extant/path/subject1/sess1/image_01.img
/currently/extant/path/subject1/sess1/image_02.img
...
/currently/extant/path/subject1/sess2/image_01.img
...
/currently/extant/path/subject2/sess1/image_01.img
etc.

When you ask MarsBaR to estimate the original design, it looks for /now/dead/directory/subject1/sess1/image_01.img, but the file does not exist. To fix this, you will need to change the filenames in the design to match the new image locations.

If you have MarsBaR > 0.30, you can first check if this is the problem. Click on Design and choose Check image names in design. You should see an error message in the matlab console window if the images are not where the design says they are.

Next, you need to find the correct root path to the images. The root path is the shared common path for all the image names. In the above example, the shared common path for the correct image filenames is /currently/extant/path.

To do the fix, you click on Design and choose Change design path to images. In the SPM input window you will see the current root directory printed in bold text. In the example above, this would be: /now/dead/directory.

You select /currently/extant/path using the SPM file selection window that has just appeared. If all went well, you can check it has worked with MarsBaR > 0.30; click Design, choose Check image names in design and hope that you get the message: All images in design appear to exist in the matlab window.

The same thing from the command line would be:

D = mardo('/path/to/spm/mat/SPM.mat');
D = cd_images(D, '/currently/extant/path');
save_spm(D);

How is the percent signal change calculated?

Good question. Let us imagine that you had an FMRI design with one event type, which is a flashing checkerboard. There is only one session of data. The events are all modeled with a haemodynamic response function (HRF) and the temporal derivative (TD). You run the MarsBaR model on these data, for an ROI in the visual cortex. Now you want the percent signal change.

Here's how it goes. You select the event using the MarsBaR percent signal change interface. MarsBaR does the following:

Finds the betas for this event. In this case the relevant betas are the first two betas, the beta for the HRF, and the beta for the TD.
Makes a new regressor for a single event. Remember that the best estimate of the signal due to the event is the beta values for this event multiplied by the regressors in the design matrix. So, to reconstruct the height of a single event of this type, we need to multiply the betas that we have calculated in the model by a regressor which is like the SPM design matrix regressor in scaling, but which is just for a single event. To do this we specify the duration of the event we want to estimate the height for, and run a single event of this duration back through the SPM design matrix machinery, to make the regressor(s) SPM would have used for just this single event. In this case we will get an HRF regressor and a TD regressor.
Next we multiply the betas that we have by the regressors (HRF beta * HRF regressor, TD beta * TD regressor), and sum up the two resulting time courses, to get the estimated event response for a single event of this event type. To get the size of the response, for now, we just take the maximum height of the reconstructed event. Let's say this is about 0.2 units.
We've said 0.2 units, but units of what? SPM scales the mean of all the in-brain voxels in the session to be 100 (see this tutorial for more detail on the scaling procedure). So, 0.2 units means 0.2 percent of the whole brain mean signal (in the rather strange SPM sense). The problem with this is, that gray matter has a higher signal than the brain average. In fact, if the whole brain mean is 100, the gray matter signal tends to be about 180-200. We want to calculate signal change relative to the baseline in this ROI, so we do not want to use the value 100 as the baseline, we want to use the actual mean signal in this ROI, which will likely be in the range of 180-200. The next step is therefore to get the mean signal in the ROI. For this, we simply get the beta for the mean column for this session. You remember that SPM removes the mean signal within a session by using a session regressor which is just 1s in the scans for this session and zeros elsewhere. These columns are the last columns in the design matrix. In our case the mean column is the third (and last) column, so, to get the session mean, we just take the third (and last) beta. By doing this, we've ignored some complexities, to do with the mean-centering of the regressors in the design matrix, but let's just quietly sweep that under the carpet. There, all gone.
Let's say our session mean was 192. Now, to get percent signal change, we just divide 0.2 by 192. We get roughly 0.001. The last step is to multiply by 100 to get percent signal change - which gives (roughly) 0.1.

The values you get may be rather small compared to reported values for - say - signal change for a block of visual stimuation. In fact you may well get signal change values that are less than 0.1 percent. Your event may not be comparable to these reports. First, your events may be short, which will of course give less maximum signal change than a long block. Second, cognitive events usually give lower signal change than events affecting primary motor or sensory cortex.

How do I run a MarsBaR analysis in batch mode?

Here is a tiny example of a batch mode script. It assumes you have a design which has been estimated in SPM, and has a set of contrasts specified. The script snippet will work only for later versions of marsbar-devel.

This example script assumes your design is stored in "/my/path/SPM.mat" and you have an ROI stored in "/my/path/my_roi.mat".

spm_name = '/my/path/SPM.mat';
roi_file = '/my/path/my_roi.mat';
 
% Make marsbar design object
D  = mardo(spm_name);

% Make marsbar ROI object
R  = maroi(roi_file);

% Fetch data into marsbar data object
Y  = get_marsy(R, D, 'mean');

% Get contrasts from original design
xCon = get_contrasts(D);

% Estimate design on ROI data
E = estimate(D, Y);

% Put contrasts from original design back into design object
E = set_contrasts(E, xCon);

% get design betas
b = betas(E); 

% get stats and stuff for all contrasts into statistics structure
marsS = compute_contrasts(E, 1:length(xCon));

See the help for the compute_contrasts function for details on the contents of the marsS structure.

How can I extract the percent of activated voxels from an ROI?

There is no easy way of doing this using the MarsBaR GUI, but you can do it using scipts like this one:

roi_file = 'my_roi.mat';
t_imgs = strvcat('spmT_0002.img', 'spmT_0003.img');
thresholds = [3.4 4.6];

roi_obj = maroi(roi_file);

y = getdata(roi_obj, t_imgs);
n_voxels = size(y, 2);

for i = 1:size(t_imgs, 1)
  pc_above_thresh(i) = sum(y(i,:) > thresholds(i)) / n_voxels * 100;
end

How do I get timecourses from images in an SPM design?

In the GUI, choose Data - Extract ROI data (default). Select your ROIs and your design (if you had not set it previously). MarsBaR extracts the data; you can then plot it or save it in various formats using Data - Export.

In script form, this would be something like:

roi_files = spm_get(Inf,'*roi.mat', 'Select ROI files');
des_path = spm_get(1, 'SPM.mat', 'Select SPM.mat');
rois = maroi('load_cell', roi_files); % make maroi ROI objects
des = mardo(des_path);  % make mardo design object
mY = get_marsy(rois{:}, des, 'mean'); % extract data into marsy data object
y  = summary_data(mY);  % get summary time course(s)

I just want to get raw timecourses from some images; how do I do that?

This can be done from the GUI. Select Data - Extract ROI data (full options). Select the ROIs, say No to use SPM design, Other for type of images, 1 for number of subjects. Select the images you want to extract data from, Raw data for scaling, and 0 for grand mean. Now you can plot the data from the GUI, or save in various formats using Data - Export data.

The script to do this might be:

roi_files = spm_get(Inf,'*roi.mat', 'Select ROI files');
P = spm_get(Inf,'*.img','Select images');
rois = maroi('load_cell', roi_files);  % make maroi ROI objects
mY = get_marsy(rois{:}, P, 'mean');  % extract data into marsy data object
y = summary_data(mY); % get summary time course(s)

I get errors using the SPM ReML estimation for FMRI designs. Can I try something else?

Why yes, in fact you can. MarsBaR includes the AR modelling from Keith Worsley's fmristat program, which is a good alternative to the standard SPM ReML for FMRI. To use this, load your (SPM2) design in the GUI, then choose Design - Add/Edit filter for SPM design. Set the high-pass filter as you wish, and then choose "fmristat AR(n)" for serial autocorrelations. Set the order of the model (AR(1), AR(2) etc) - 2 is a good choice. Estimate the model in the usual way.

In batch mode this would look like:

% Make marsbar design object
D  = mardo(spm_name);

% Set fmristat AR modelling
D = autocorr(D, 'fmristat', 2);

How is the FIR (or PSTH) calculated?

MarsBaR and SPM2 use FIR models to calculate the PSTH (peri-stimulus time histogram). By default, the FIR models have a time bin of one TR. Let us imagine your TR is one second, as is your FIR time-bin. You can then think of the FIR as calculating the best estimate of the signal 0 seconds, 1 seconds, 2 seconds after the event has occurred, and after adjusting for other effects in the model.

As this is just a very similar approach to averaging, there is no constraint that the signal should be at zero at 0 seconds. Just for example, random noise will mean than the average signal at 0 seconds will not be exactly zero.

For more information on the FIR method used for the PSTH, you might want to have a look at these papers:

Ollinger JM, Shulman GL, Corbetta M. Separating processes within a trial in event-related functional MRI. Neuroimage. 2001 Jan;13(1):210-7.

Dale AM. Optimal experimental design for event-related fMRI. Hum Brain Mapp. 1999;8(2-3):109-14.

Russ Poldrack also has a some matlab tutorials including FIR, and another page on FIR modelling.

How do I extract all the FIR timecourses from my design?

You can of course do this via the GUI. The most efficient is to do it with a batch script. You have already run the batch script above up to "E = estimate(D, Y);". Then:

% Get definitions of all events in model
[e_specs, e_names] = event_specs(E);
n_events = size(e_specs, 2);

% Bin size in seconds for FIR
bin_size = tr(E);

% Length of FIR in seconds
fir_length = 24;

% Number of FIR time bins to cover length of FIR
bin_no = fir_length / bin_size;

% Options - here 'single' FIR model, return estimated % signal change
opts = struct('single', 1, 'percent', 1);

% Return time courses for all events in fir_tc matrix
for e_s = 1:n_events
  fir_tc(:, e_s) = event_fitted_fir(E, e_specs(:,e_s), bin_size, ...
				    bin_no, opts);
end

If your events have the same name across sessions, and you want to average across the events with the same name:

% Get compound event types structure
ets = event_types_named(E);
n_event_types = length(ets);

% Bin size in seconds for FIR
bin_size = tr(E);

% Length of FIR in seconds
fir_length = 24;

% Number of FIR time bins to cover length of FIR
bin_no = fir_length / bin_size;

% Options - here 'single' FIR model, return estimated % signal change
opts = struct('single', 1, 'percent', 1);

for e_t = 1:n_event_types
   fir_tc(:, e_t) = event_fitted_fir(E, ets(e_t).e_spec, bin_size, ...
      bin_no, opts);
end

How do I extract percent signal change from my design using batch?

Maybe something like this:

% Get definitions of all events in model
[e_specs, e_names] = event_specs(E);
n_events = size(e_specs, 2);
dur = 0;

% Return percent signal esimate for all events in design
for e_s = 1:n_events
  pct_ev(e_s) = event_signal(E, e_specs(:,e_s), dur);
end

How do I do a random effect analysis in MarsBaR?

There are two ways to do this.

Do your ROI analysis for each subject. From the GUI, or via batch mode, extract the "contrast value" for your t contrast of interest. Put these values into a matlab matrix, with one value per subject (to take the simplest case). You have two ways to go from there. Either export this matrix to a spreadsheet or text file, and run the statistics using another statistics program, or load the SPM random effects design into MarsBaR, import your matlab matrix as the data, and run the random effects analysis in MarsBaR.
Run the full SPM analysis for each subject. Write out the contrast image for the contrast of interest. Run the random effects design in SPM. Then, import the random effects design into MarsBaR, and run it using your ROI. Here you are extracting the (e.g.) mean contrast value within the ROI for each subject, and using that as your estimate of the effect for that subject.

If you do ordinary least squares (OLS) analyses at the single-subject level, these two approaches will give you the exact same answer. OLS is the analysis that does not try to correct for auto-correlation in the data.

If you did not use OLS, then the first approach is more valid, as in this case, you have estimated the autocorrelation from the ROI itself, rather than the whole (activated) brain, which is the default SPM approach.

OLS at the single subject level is valid (is not biased), but is likely to be less powerful than the alternative (which is removing the autocorrelation - "whitening"). In practice the difference between using and not using OLS is often small.

The first approach also saves you having to run the SPM models at the single subject model, but you have often done this in any case.

Should I use MarsBaR ROI analysis, or small volume correction (SVC) in SPM?

Good question - thanks for asking. The two approaches will give answers to different questions. MarsBaR asks something like "does area A on average activate more for condition 1 than condition 2", whereas SVC asks "given I am only looking within the voxels of area A, are there any voxels in A that I can be confident are more active in condition 1 than condition 2". Thus, if you have a good idea of the region you are interested in, and believe that the response should be relatively homogenous across the region, then the MarsBaR question is likely to be the closest to the one you want to answer. However, if you do not have a good idea of the exact definition of the region you are interested in, and think there may will be different responses in different parts of the region that you define, then you might prefer SVC, which can detect peaks of activity even if the rest of the region is not activated, or even is negative.

Of course, the meaning of the results is slightly different. SVC allows you to say that some part of your candidate region is active (allowing for example that most of it could be deactivated). MarsBaR would likely find no significant change in that situation.

Summary: which you prefer depends on the exact question you want to answer, which in turn depends on the region definition that you are using.

Should I use smoothed or unsmoothed images for my MarsBaR analysis?

Of course, you can also think of using smoothed images as using a smoothed version of your ROI definition.

The decision of smoothing is a trade-off between trying to:

increase voxel-to-voxel signal to noise, and
avoid polluting region signal by signal from nearby structures.

So, if your region definition is a conservative one in the centre of a large structure that you believe to be homogenous, then you might opt for image smoothing, on the basis that the risk from nearby signal is rather small. If your region was well-defined, and surrounded by other things such as CSF that you really wanted to avoid, you would probably choose unsmoothed images. The hippocampus strikes me as a good example of the latter...

Why can't I select files like SPM designs in the matlab GUI?

If you are running matlab 7 on Linux, you may have difficulty with the matlab GUI routines that MarsBaR uses to select files, like SPM designs and ROI data.

This is caused by a bug in matlab. At the time of writing this uigetfile bug on linux was documented at the given link on the Mathworks site; if the link goes stale, you will probably find it by searching with the terms "uigetfile linux". It's a bizarre bug, which causes matlab to appear not to find files when you click on them in the matlab "uigetfile" interface that MarsBaR uses. If you are using the default method of running matlab, which uses the fancy Java desktop, you can get round it using the workaround documented at the link above, which is to run the following command:

setappdata(0,'UseNativeSystemDialogs',false)

in matlab, before you ever start a file selection dialog, such as those in MarsBaR. Future versions of MarsBaR will do this automatically.

This fix doesn't work if you are running in non-Java mode - which is what you get if you start matlab with:

matlab -nojvm

In that case, you will need to either select the file using the keyboard, rather than the mouse, or type the file name directly into the file selection box.

There are some other odd wrinkles to the behaviour of the uigetfile interface in matlab 7, which should be fixed in marsbar version 0.40 and above. For details,search for comments containing 'uigetfile' in mars_uifile.m.

Why do I get a "No valid data for roi" warning when extracting data?

You might run into a warning like this:

> Warning: No valid data for roi 1 ...

This is almost invariably because you are sampling from SPM results images, that have NaNs at the edges of the brain. Marsbar uses linear resampling by default to get the data from the images, so voxels at the edge of the brain disappear due to resampling with NaN values. The fix is to change the ROI resampling to nearest neighbour using something like:

roi_filename = 'my_roi.mat';
my_roi = maroi(roi_filename);
my_roi = spm_hold(my_roi, 0); % set NN resampling
saveroi(my_roi, roi_filename);

and then rerun the data extraction... Last Refreshed: Wed Aug 29 11:58:50 BST 2007

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